In the sim l can land a C-130 or C-17 in 2500 ft using the thrust reversers …so that is not realistic !!!
Well those are book rated values based on testing, safety factors and USAF minimums. I used to know alot back in the day for flight planning purposes but I retired in 06 and forgot about alot of it lol not to mention all of the required airfield ratings like runway thickness and taxiway sizes
When you see capabilities of military aircraft, there are “standard” peacetime and/or wartime mins/max and then there are those that need prior approval during planning.
I just cut the throttle and half glide in… of course l set it for minimal weight… l can also land a 747-400 from tail view at KPSP with no flaps or AP… just throttle… brakes… and reversers… at about 200 kts…so l guess that is not realistic either …but that is 7K rwy !!!
In my 20 plus years in the USAF because of IFEs ( In Flight Emergency) I seen no flap landings, no reverser landings etc due to system failures. Alot of “unrealistic” game landings do happen and possible but usually sends the plane to the barn for extensive repairs like brakes, tires, engines or flight control surfaces etc. Some become hanger queens as CAN birds. (Caniblization) then shipped in peices to the boneyard or become static displays.
But without straying too far off topic the C-17 can do some really awesome things
When l started flying in the sim l was sort of obsessed with learning how to fly and land as if all the avionics and mechanical systems had failed selectively or in multiple operations… think l got it over the years from intentionally simulating failures in the pc avsims…and even Xplane 9 and 10 mobile which gave you a similar capability …so l just tried to duplicate it in this sim !!!
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The C-17 Globemaster III is the newest, most flexible cargo aircraft to enter the airlift force. The C-17 is capable of rapid strategic delivery of troops and all types of cargo to main operating bases or directly to forward bases in the deployment area. The aircraft can perform tactical airlift and airdrop missions and can transport litters and ambulatory patients during aeromedical evacuations when required. The inherent flexibility and performance of the C-17 force improve the ability of the total airlift system to fulfill the worldwide air mobility requirements of the United States.
The ultimate measure of airlift effectiveness is the ability to rapidly project and sustain an effective combat force close to a potential battle area. Threats to U.S. interests have changed in recent years, and the size and weight of U.S.-mechanized firepower and equipment have grown in response to improved capabilities of potential adversaries. This trend has significantly increased air mobility requirements, particularly in the area of large or heavy outsize cargo. As a result, newer and more flexible airlift aircraft are needed to meet potential armed contingencies, peacekeeping or humanitarian missions worldwide. The C-17 is capable of meeting today’s demanding airlift missions.
Reliability and maintainability are two outstanding benefits of the C-17 system. Current operational requirements impose demanding reliability and maintainability. These requirements include an aircraft mission completion success probability rate of 92 percent, only 20 aircraft maintenance man-hours per flying hour, and full and partial mission availability rates of 74.7 and 82.5 percent, respectively. The Boeing warranty assures these figures will be met.
The C-17 measures 174 feet long (53 meters) with a wingspan of 169 feet, 10 inches (51.75 meters). The aircraft is powered by four, fully reversible, Federal Aviation Administration-certified F117-PW-100 engines (the military designation for the commercial Pratt & Whitney PW2040), currently used on the Boeing 757. Each engine is rated at 40,440 pounds of thrust. The thrust reversers direct the flow of air upward and forward to avoid ingestion of dust and debris. Maximum use has been made of commercial off-the-shelf equipment, including Air Force-standardized avionics.
The aircraft is operated by a crew of three (pilot, co-pilot and loadmaster), reducing manpower requirements, risk exposure and long-term operating costs. Cargo is loaded onto the C-17 through a large aft door that accommodates military vehicles and palletized cargo. The C-17 can carry virtually all of the Army’s air-transportable equipment.
Maximum payload capacity of the C-17 is 170,900 pounds (77,519 kilograms), and its maximum gross takeoff weight is 585,000 pounds (265,352 kilograms). With a payload of 169,000 pounds (76,657 kilograms) and an initial cruise altitude of 28,000 feet (8,534 meters), the C-17 has an unrefueled range of approximately 2,400 nautical miles. Its cruise speed is approximately 450 knots (.74 Mach). The C-17 is designed to airdrop 102 paratroopers and equipment.
The design of the aircraft allows it to operate through small, austere airfields. The C-17 can take off and land on runways as short as 3,500 feet (1,064 meters) and only 90 feet wide (27.4 meters). Even on such narrow runways, the C-17 can turn around using a three-point star turn and its backing capability.
The C-17 made its maiden flight on Sept. 15, 1991, and the first production model was delivered to Charleston Air Force Base, now known as Joint Base Charleston, S.C., on June 14, 1993. The first squadron of C-17s, the 17th Airlift Squadron, was declared operationally ready Jan. 17, 1995. The Air Force originally programmed to buy 120 C-17s.Current budget plans increased the total number to 223 aircraft.
The C-17 is operated by Air Mobility Command at Travis AFB, Calif.; Dover AFB, Del.; Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.; Joint Base Charleston, S.C., and Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, N.J.
The Air National Guard flies C-17s from the 172d Airlift Wing, Jackson, Miss., and the 105th Airlift Wing, Stewart ANGB, N.Y. Additionally, Air Force Materiel Command operates two C-17s at Edwards AFB, Calif., and Pacific Air Forces operates aircraft at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska, and Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, Hawaii.
The Air Force Reserve Command operates aircraft at March Air Reserve Base, Calif., and Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio. Air Education and Training Command has 17 aircraft at Altus AFB, Okla.
Primary Function: Cargo and troop transport
Prime Contractor: Boeing Company
Power Plant: Four Pratt & Whitney F117-PW-100 turbofan engines
Thrust: 40,440 pounds, each engine
Wingspan: 169 feet 10 inches (to winglet tips) (51.75 meters)
Length: 174 feet (53 meters)
Height: 55 feet 1 inch (16.79 meters)
Cargo Compartment: length, 88 feet (26.82 meters); width, 18 feet (5.48 meters); height, 12 feet 4 inches (3.76 meters)
Speed: 450 knots at 28,000 feet (8,534 meters) (Mach .74)
Service Ceiling: 45,000 feet at cruising speed (13,716 meters)
Range: Global with in-flight refueling
Crew: Three (two pilots and one loadmaster)
Aeromedical Evacuation Crew: A basic crew of five (two flight nurses and three medical technicians) is added for aeromedical evacuation missions. Medical crew may be altered as required by the needs of patients
Maximum Peacetime Takeoff Weight: 585,000 pounds (265,352 kilograms)
Load: 102 troops/paratroops; 36 litter and 54 ambulatory patients and attendants; 170,900 pounds (77,519 kilograms) of cargo (18 pallet positions)
Unit Cost: $202.3 million (fiscal 1998 constant dollars)
Date Deployed: June 1993
Inventory: Active duty, 187; Air National Guard, 12; Air Force Reserve, 14
(Current as of October 2015)
Note to inventory, the USAF is shifting it’s inventory with units like the 145th Airlift Wing (NC ANG), Charlotte NC sending their C-130s to GA receiving C-17s from active duty units.
And a note on pax capacity. It depends. How many loadmasters on board. Red seats or blue seats (red being jump seats or blue airline style seats. Pax, cargo, pax/cargo configuration. Or medivac config.
This would be awesome!! At least one C-17 flies over my house weekly and it is amazing! I have been in a C-17 and the cockpit before and it was really detailed. A reworked C-17 would be one of the best things about IF!!
Definitely needs a rework. This aircraft is a beast and it dosen’t get the appreciation that it deserves.
They are actually expanding the USAF hangers to fit these…
Kinda a bummer since we are loosing the C-130, but then again one of my favorite aircraft is moving in…
How did you get to that view?
This is definitely necessary, the C-17 is the most “skin and bones” plane in IF considering the gear,flaps, and reverse thrust have no animation what so ever, great request :)
I was parked and used free camera mode!
I think it’s clear that the C-17 needs a rework, but it should come with some advancements to the whole military aviation in IF. A couple weeks after the Hercules was released, you haven’t seen it in the skies that often anymore, although it has really good animations and even moving parts. Jets are in use for fun or sometimes to escort, but overall they aren’t really common, too. Imo they should combine the C-17 rework with a rework of some more jets than the A-10, and military aviation should get more importance, for example always one military base active in weekly expert schedule or more virtual squadrons.
I‘m really looking forward what’s to come for this exciting part of aviation!
I think this 🅱️oi needs a rework BADLY.
So this plane has -No gear deployment or retract
- No animated/working rudder
- No animated/working flaps
- No Cockpit view
- Complete spoilers
Anything I forgot? My point is This thing need some work
Just voted for this, in my opinion the most needed rework for any aircraft in the app, as in being the most outdated.
Being the old AMC CP guy here; the C-17 (and KC-10), unlike other military aircraft in IF put the " reach" in Global Reach. This is why AMC (TACC controlled missions) gets it’s call sign Reach (RCH) and the last 4 of the tail numbers.
Yes, the KC-10 does do air-land missions but foremost a tanker. The C-130 is an intra-theater/ tactical airlifted.
But the C-17, though a bit slower is a long haul aircraft as well as theater/tactical. You can always find them flying military base to base across the globe. In addition you can find them at civilian airports when the president is coming, in town, or just left hauling limos and other vehicles and equipment. Or hauling specialized cargo like satellites or humanitarian missions.
In short, you could see this aircraft at any airport or base in the world, do a short or long haul :)